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hash question???

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:47 am
by DIRTY_WB2000
man, due to a lack of weed been smoking hash a while now, and this shit is great to me but is burning the living shit outta my throat,,,well i don't know if BURN is the right word but the next day my shit is scratchy as hell!!!!! any info idea's,,,i smoke it outta orn pipe or roll a blunt outta it,,,,,????

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:41 pm
by Certified-Nutter
i smoked hash all my smoking life, over here bud is a rarity and hash rules all
you will experiance a bit of irritation to begin with, hash can be alot heavier smoke (depending what type of hash u smoke)
soaps and press hash's are usualy Very harsh on the throat, it will take a few months for your throat to become accoustamed, blonde hash (or as its called here 'pollen' dno why, theres no pollen in there... just what its called) thats, as i have found the smooothest smoke, but personaly i prefer squidgy hash (u can tell it straight away cos u can usualy bend/shape/squeeze/etc it, hence the name squidgy... many types of hash under this, like gold seal, nepalise tempal, etc, its can be a heavy smoke, but its the most chilled out one, and good effect i find)
dont worry about the burning, hash is completely different from bud (in terms of harshness of smoke) but nothing to worry about, ur lung n throat will be accounstamed to it soon enough, if u continue with hash
hope this helps at all, take care :)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:34 pm
by WeedGuru_Flow
It's called pollen cause it gets pollinated or something, don't ask me what that proces consists of cause i'm no pro :p

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:41 pm
by Mr Skunky
i smoked hash ONCE and hated it, i didnt get high, and i was really drunk at the time too

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:47 pm
by Hitom
probably some shit hash then, you should try it again imo.
greens+browns = heaven!

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:09 pm
by SQUEEZABLE
Hitom wrote:probably some shit hash then, you should try it again imo.
greens+browns = heaven!
cant w8 till i try that

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:14 am
by Certified-Nutter
i can tell u the processes... but not kno, i about to rush to this weird training thing, while i am catching Z's and looking out the window i will try n find a way to put em down as shortly as possible

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:27 pm
by Certified-Nutter
ok well, that thing was boring as fuck, but at least theres a few cool people there :D
anyways, hash:

firstly and my faverote type of hash: Squidgy
i call it squidgy cos u can squeeze n shape it without heating it, a example of a squidgy type hash would be gold seal, nepalise tempal balls, and stuff like that, its usualy a dark colour, but it does vary, u can always tell squidgy, as i said, u can squeeze it without heating, its also called 'finger-hash' this is because it is produced by men handling high crystal weed, so that some sticks to their fingers and hands, they then rub their hands and fingers together to compress it into a small ball, they repeat the process untill they have made a reasonable sized lump of hash.

secondly, blond hash/pollen:
pollen is usualy quite thin, or at least it was traditionaly, for this, people would collect thc crystals and trichromes by going through fields with large sheets (i think it was linen... i am unsure of the material, but it matters not) they rub these sheets against the plants, untill they have collected a good weight of crystals and trichromes with their sheet, the crystals is then transfered to a even finer sheet, where it is wrapped and put in a hot press, where it is pressed to about the size and shape of a book, and then removed from the sheet once its cooled, they have a nice block of blond hash, it is usualy quite light in colour, tho not always, usualy more brittle than all the others, and if u look really closely, if u snap it, u should be able to see the small granuals in it .a commonly known pollen hash's are morrocan blond and another if anyone heard of it, Leb.

thirdly, press:
press is a new form of hash, it is made in factories and came about to produce hash quicker and more effectivly, there are many ways in which this is made, but its usualy along the same lines, the plant is usualy treated in some way to remove the thc, usualy by submerging it and allowing all crystals to dissolve, then removin plant debris and evaporating the solvent, leaving them with 'hash oil' (will come to that) they then add some hardening chemicals and press it (tho they press it cold instead of hot - usualy) press hash is usualy dark, and very tough, and its very hard to break without heating it first, press hash is pretty much every hash that doesnt fall into any of the other categories, press hash is also the hash which is used when people make soapbar (will also explain soon) so i cant give u any names, as i dont know any, its just normal hash like.

Soapbar:
this is made usualy from press hash, pollen/squigy dont work to well in this process
soapbar is either made directly, or they treat the press hash further to liquidify it again, basicaly its press hash with lots of other things thrown in, i cant tell u whats init, i dont kno myself, i have heard that they put shit, hay, brick powder, engine oil, and all kinds of things init just to make it go further, shit i kno, but there u go, thats soapbar, soap's usualy quite difficult to tell apart from press as they look so similar, u can only tell when u smoke it (also if u find bits of plastic inside it u kno its soap)

Hash Oil&Budder:
this is one of the purest forms besides Budder, basicaly like i said in pess hash, the plant is submerged in a solvent (usualy something like butane cos it has a low boiling temp) the plant is left to rest untill all the crystals are dissolved, then the plant debris is removed, the butane is then evaporated with a heat source (like hot water, Not a flame! butane is very flamable)
this leaves a golden brown-ish semi-liquid, if i had to compare it, it looks shockingly like honey, as i result i will often call it honey rather than hash oil. Budder is a further development on hash oil, basicaly, the oil is further treated with more chemicals to isomerise the THC and it is wipped through air, to make it a more solid form, but still melts easy, its physical properties is much like butter, hence the name Budder, it is very hard to produce and requires specific apparatus and chemicals, i dont even kno which ones u need, i just kno they are needed.

and thats pretty much all hash, there is plantblock, but i have always never seen this as a proper hash, its like a bud+hash hybrid, its basicaly where the plant is grinded, and the whole thing is then compressed into a block, its usualy a green or grey-ish green in colour, as it is basicaly bud crushed up n compressed, usualy able to pull bits straight out (depending on thc consistancy is how well it sticks together) as i said, its not really a hash, but its really a bud either, so its like half way, lol
u dont see plant block around much, most people never bother with it, mainly only done by growers who want their personal stash to take up less space.
so yea
there we go, a little (or huge) and breif description of the major hash groups, as u no doubtly guessed, each group has numerous types in it, u kno, made from different plants, or different THC quantities leading to different names of the specific hash, but they will all fall under one of these general groups

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:13 pm
by grayhookups
when i end up smoking hash (i smoke it about once a month) i do hashbots, my assumption would be that hashbots harsher on ur throat then smoking hash out a pipe yet i find its not 2 tough on my lungs, while when smoking it out of a pipe i find it as smooth as a babys bottom, hashbots give me much more of a head rush and chill me out more

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:01 pm
by Stoned Ninja
i grew up smokin soapy and pollen, and now at 25 my throats fucked.
i used to wake up in the morning, wheezing and coughing, but ever since i said so long to the solids and hello to the herb, i dont feel as bad now.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:29 am
by SQUEEZABLE
BiG bAd DoG wrote:i grew up smokin soapy and pollen, and now at 25 my throats fucked.
i used to wake up in the morning, wheezing and coughing, but ever since i said so long to the solids and hello to the herb, i dont feel as bad now.
aye but pollen is really strong stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kief

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:54 pm
by Certified-Nutter
keif and pollen are two different things!
keif is the pure crystals, un-compressed
pollen is the step after keif, they collect all crystals (which on its own is keif) n then they compress it to pollen.... sorry i am a real nerd for hash :p
vaporisers work very well with keif btw, hash's not so well tho, lol
i will one day switch to vapourisers primarily, smokin hash neat in a pipe all the time is taking its toll

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:28 am
by JokersAce
if the smoke is getting harsh smoke out a bong with really cold water and some ice

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:34 am
by Mr Skunky
i was wondering :) if you got a lump of squidgy, and made it into the shape of a joint, then rolled it in a skin, could you smoke it like a joint? :D

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:58 am
by WeedGuru_Flow
No, since it's solid and you couldn't 'suck' any air through it... :)