w.....t........f...... religion/911/ i dont wanna sound nuts

[JokersAce]

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[bobdole]

Do you really think the American people would let bush just skip the 2008 elections and turn our country into a dictatorship?

[Ziggy]

Its allowed to happen now that he is the Insurer of Constitutional Government in Emergency. Basically it allows him to stay in power if a crisis should occur no matter what (including the 2008 elections). This also (i think) allows him to implement martial law.

Heres where i found this out
http://progressive.org/mag_wx051807

And right now Bush is pretty much doing what he wants. With that Patriotic Act it pretty much overrules some of your Constitutional rights (some of the more important ones i think) and because of this other term he uses, its like "privileged power" or something like that (help me out if you know what im talking about guys n girls) he doesnt have to answer some questions or do this or that because of this "privileged power"

[JokersAce]

you have no clue how many protests, and possibly riots will ensue here if he stays longer than his term.

[bobdole]

Fuck riots, it be revolution.

[Psyclone]

Terrorism - The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

I'd say every country commited terrorism in one way or another...even police are terrorists.

[Funk Doctor]

I still believe it was staged. Building went down too fast (approx at the rate of gravity) collapsed neatly in on itself, plus why would they have all that control demolition set up in the third buildging.

Google "Loose Change Guide".

[Ziggy]

Loose Change Guide isnt bad. A little hard to find exactly what im looking for though. Havnt seen the movie if it does come in movie form. Does it explain about the hotspots found under both twin towers and the molten steel seen falling from the towers and the white smoke/dust - this all points towards the use of thermate.

No steel building has indeed been destroyed by a fire, but then again, now steel building was ever hit by loaded 757s travelling at over 500 miles per hour. It's not the fires that brought down the WTC towers, it was the damage done by the airplanes crashing into them.

But what about building 7 that was not hit by a plane and only had very few fires and even fewer structural damage.
This is the biggest fire on building 7


I'm just saying all the coincidences (sp?) leading up and following 9/11 are pretty shady. All that and some evidence i've found about the building just doesnt seem right to me.

And to JokersAce and Bob Dole...I'm not saying you guys wouldnt revolt if something like that should happen, for God's sake i pray that you do. Bush has been too stupid about thing and has gotten away with a lot. A lot of ppl are saying that their might be another "crisis" to come before his term is up so ready yourselves if it comes.

[Funk Doctor]

But what about building 7 that was not hit by a plane and only had very few fires and even fewer structural damage.

Again, that's just plain bullshit. First off, there are many pictures of WTC 7 with a 20 story hole in one side. Also, countless pictures show smoke pouring out the windows. And if it had been a controlled demolition, it would have fallen in it's own footprint. Does this look like WTC 7 fell in it's own footprint?



That pile of rubble is approx. 12 stories high and spread out over 150 metres.

I'm just saying all the coincidences (sp?) leading up and following 9/11 are pretty shady. All that and some evidence i've found about the building just doesnt seem right to me.

Coincidences? Care to elaborate? As far as your 'evidence' goes, if you're referring to the much-used popular CT 'evidence', then your argument holds no ground. If you yourself have come across some evidence that was unknown before, what the fuck are you still doing here?

[leprechaun]

as far as i know... (coming from my history teacher) America trained Bin Laden, just thought i'd let use know that. and as for it being a government thing im torn in thought there... im not to sure there is a good enough reason for the government to do something like this but as some 1 said here that with power there is corruption (or something like that). i have to say i mostly think it has nothing to do with the govenment and more to do with the "terroists". the WTC is a good target for them... many people killed and it is sorta a symbol of money and power coming from the West which these "terroist" groups are against (mixed in with religious reasons, even though it would be against murder - possible brainwashing here by people with power, showing corruption again...) power is a terrible thing.

[JokersAce]

The U.S. military supplied and trained the Taliban to fight against the Soviets.

[Funk Doctor]

Why wouldn't they? "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." It's the same reason they funded Saddam in his war against Iran.

[leprechaun]

it seems slightly hipocritical... here take these guns to go fight the "bad guys", u r doing a good job...... later on....... u guys are terroists we want u dead. u trained them to be terroists...totally backfired on u lot.

[Funk Doctor]

People thought Hitler would cool down if they appeased him enough. And we all know how that worked out. That's politics for you.

[Ziggy]

Firstly, Hitler did the exact same thing when he was in power. He hatched a plan to set fire to the Reichstag building and blamed the Communists in order to use fear mongering to rally ppl behind him.

Let me ask everyone a question.

You come home from work one day and find your garaged torched. Burt right away - nothing left. You're neighbor, while you were away, went ahead and built an extention to his own garage where your garage had been. You ask what happened and he relays a story of how this kids set the fire using molotov cocktails, and it is only due to his quick thinking that the fire got put out in time to save your house. The evidense would be there, except that he had it already removed, so as to build his extention.

Later you find plans for his extention dated prior to the fire, you then go down to talk to the local fire officers and find out they they aren't talking. Not denying, just not talking.

Who did it?

I think a lot of people just dont want to believe things because he is the President?



And before this gets out of hand, I hope im not making enemies here, just trying to show things how i see them.