Purplera1n Grow Journel - Budget

[Purplera1n]

I searched the PC grow case idea, I tried it. I dismantelled my computer, stuck one in there... and there is absolutely no room for it whatsoever. Being an apparently 'lowryder' sort of thing, it's too bushy to fit inside a pc grow case. So I had to basically turn it on side and it serves as a nice cooling system, ventillation system lol

I'd love a pc grow box grow though, something discreet. But these 3 girls just won't fit If they did, I'd have 3 pc cases lined up in such a way around my place and no one would be none the wiser because i build computers.... lol

[Purplera1n]

Okay, I need someone who is good at sexing plants.

Okay, all 3 of them have white hairs, so i can confidently say they are female.... But ONE of them, ironically who i call 'Bottom Bitch', for simply being the midget of the 3... and a little bitch... has just grown something today.... that I don't like. I'm not experienced atall, but just to entertain my current knowledge and put it to the test... Do i have a motherfucking hermi on my hands like i think i do?

Here is Bottom Bitch, the patient:





What be your diagnosis weed gurus?

The other 2, Biggie and Pac are only producing white hairs...
Bottombitch however, the smallest of the three is doing something else the other 2 aren't doing abit extra, it's producing white hairs but it's growing something that i can't say is a sack or what, i simply just do not know.

The seeds i bought clearly labelled as feminised. So In my minds eye i would have expected them to be female. Anyway, I wont panic just yet... But IF so, I need to know what to do to protect my 2 girls. Because i dont want no tranny plant giving them a facial or nothing XD LOL If it is, do i grow it on it's own?

But then again, if it is already 'flowering' and part female and male... The size of it... is just bad. I dont think I'd get ANY yeild off of it really what soever. Because it's just a midget. It's super leafy/bushy, very closed in together. Biggie however is the very same but the stems and etc. are more bigger, thicker and stretched.

Bottom bitch is on the far right.... Biggie is on the far left and Pac is in the Middle.



I just DO NOT get why there are such size differences. They all have been under the same lighting, conditions, watering. I water once every 3 days. But the size comparison to Biggie and Bottom bitch is disgraceful.

As this grow is all about getting as much yield as i can, truth to be told money wise, I can't buy any extra lights. I'm seriously strapped for cash right now. Is there anything you would recommend me that i can do to increase my yield, and if not, potency?

ALSO.

I wish to add, I think that they gave me 1 wrong seed. Because Biggie and Bottombitch look the same sort of, hard for me to explain. Wide leaves, when Pac has thinish leaves, more sharper at the end (i first expected it to be a male, don't know why but my gut told me. But instead i was wrong, only white hairs). Just looks different, i can't explain it, it just does. Much more darker than Biggie and Bottom bitch, very dark green. Whilst Biggie and Bottom bitch, Lucious green.

[AbbyRoad]

the pictures to blurry

[blackxs]

You think THOSE are size differences?

ALL these plants are from the same batch, some planted 2 weeks later


Pics are too blurry to diagnose hermie though

[Purplera1n]

False alarm people! Out of what i thought was a pollen sack, I did however manage to find white/see through hairs coming out of a few of them. So that's a life saver. It was kinda weird, because they aren't like balls, but whispy white/green things. It's really weird to me.

Anyway, My next biggest concern is... They are sexually maturing, flowering... Isn't this abit too early for flowering? Like, i know its supposed to be finish early sort of strain but this is taking the biscuit abit. Like the reason why i'm 'complaining' is because i probably won't get screw all yeild from the height of these plants. How much do you think i'd get roughly :S I know it's hard to tell, but hey estimations always appreciated. Hey may even have a game, The winner is the person who can guess the closest dry weight ammount LOL!

But anyway, It's been.... let me calculate... it's been about a month from seed. So yeah, about a month old all three of them, Biggie, Pac and Bottom Bitch. Am I doing okay????

[blackxs]

Are these autoflowering strains? If not then you need to adjust your photoperiod, if so then you did something to cause them to flower early. Normally they wouldnt flower at that stage, that seems very early. A month from seed is not a long time.

For the smell buy some activated carbon, leave some in a tray in the same room as the plants and leave some by the door. Its very good at absorbing odors, even raw stones are fairly efficient. They sell them for aquariums (and even weed smoking) so its not hard to obtain. Needs to be activated carbon though.

[SpRi7e]

autoflowering doesn't need a lowering of light periods, they can flower on 18/6 easily if you wanted to

[blackxs]

autoflowering doesn't need a lowering of light periods, they can flower on 18/6 easily if you wanted to

Yes but this is why I am wondering why his plants are flowering early, if they are autoflowering its possible he got them too cold or left the light off one day and it kicked them into flowering mode.

Im no pro but I have read tons and TONS of growlogs, seen tons of grow videos, and none of them flower a plant that young. I would not expect a half ounce between those three plants.

[Purplera1n]

I wonder the same as you Blacky, I have ran through all the possible scenarios over my head and i can't find a thing i did wrong. I have them on a 24 hour light cycle, no darkness whatsoever. It's quite warm, it's my living room and i always have the heating on. There has been no powercuts, nothing.

They are autoflowering, yes and i can't find an explanation either... The ONLY thing i can possibly work with is that I have used 2700k for the whole grow. Due to insufficient funds. So that's probably something to take into consideration. I'm just really suprised thought how much they smell without actually forming any 'buds', seriously suprised. The whole room smells of it and i've had to use febreeze to calm to odor down. As higher suggested, im going to buy some odor-minimiser stuff. My house will be smelling like a confetti bowl.

I have rubbed the stalks and smelt and jesus christ, fuck me. My mouth actually salivated and i licked my lips, it was gorgeous. Fruity, extremely skunky and that was just by rubbing a stalk! To be perfectly honest, even if i only got 1oz out of the three of them, I'd be quite happy. No matter the potency, i think the novelty effect of growing and smoking my own would be badass.

I just have no clue whatsoever how long the flowering period is, this whole thing has thrown my organization totally out of wack. I was PLANNING on riding out the veg stage as much as i could and switch it to maybe 14/24 hour light cycle to kick start them into flowering. But then again, autoflowering strain may have not been 'the beginners' choice for me. I wish i had bought a non autoflowering strain. Maybe Northern Lights, apparently thats quite a beginners treat.

But to be honest, regardless of Biggie, Pac, Bottombitch flowering quite early. I am happy with the growing experience, i'm completely feeling it. It's no skin off my back, as soon as their done i'll get me some real nice seeds, a strain that's fit for my needs and challenging but not completely impossible for me to work with. My friend who has an even better setup than me, mega better. HPS and all that lark and parlava, He bought a strain called "Black Pearl" or "Black widow", i dunno something with Black at the beginning and he had some SERIOUS nutrient problems. He grew in a soil medium and he kept getting yellow leaves, brown spots and stuff and weird thing is the PH was fine, give or take same as my soil. But I think he was feeding them with Miracle grow or something and something for tomato's, I'm not sure i dont pay attention to his arse.

But back to my grow journel...

Erm, Well all of them are getting alot more taller and branching out. Maybe I'll get lucky, I have absolutley no idea whatsoever. Maybe I wont, i haven't got anything to loose except abit of water (
But in all seriousness, I think I may get lucky. I dunno, Maybe it will turn itself around in my favor.

[Purplera1n]

Okay i have looked on a few forums, and Short Rider from Nirvana (Were i got my stuff from) apparently has INCREDIBLY BAD reviews. People all over the place have been saying it appears to be an unstable strain, too sensative to heat, fast and slow growth (luck of the draw), Nute Problems, Apparently they FLOWER too EARLY to essentially gain alot of yield. But on the Dispensers website it clearly states that....

Type : Mostly indica
Flowering : Autoflowering
Genetics : Top 44 and Early Special
Flowering Time : Medium
Outdoor Harvest : September/October
Height : Short
THC Level : Medium
Characteristics : Strong, skunky buds




Aswell as being Feminised which i had to pay alittle extra for, which i thought was kinda worth it because in all truth all 3 have luckily turned out to be females. Anyway, People are complaining especially the feminised seeds (what i have) are flowering too quickly, commenting and suggesting the genetics are even unstable (fuck knows what that means) and that heat is such a big issue with these plants apparently. In the early days, i did notice alittle bit of purple on the stems, but ever since i put them in that little grow box thing I have made from a chest of drawers, they have been completely fine and turned to green. I didn't think it was an issue at the time. But apparently ALOT of people have complained that the feminised seeds, mostly turned out to be male, or part male (the majourity of the reports).

So it appears i am not alone on this one... Although the results of some peoples plants, which are like double the size of mine, their yeilds have been quite nice. Just by looking at their crops, not knowing the dry weight.

Nirvana Seeds Short Rider is a hybrid of our discontinued strains Top 44 and Early Special. Top 44 has long been a trade favourite because of it's cannabis seeds ability to produce commercially worthwhile amounts of strong, skunky buds in just 44 days of flowering. Even though Early Special itself lacks this characteristic, its Siberian Ruderalis genes give Short Rider the unique ability to "autoflower" - to flower independently of light cycles. This means you won't need to maintain a strict lighting schedule for this strain - it will flower regardless and in less than 8 weeks! Short Rider is a must for growers with limited space or who simply want to finish extra early. The quality is amazing considering how little time it takes to finish. Short Rider's THC is between 8-15% and gives a relaxing stone.

So it seems that I have been mislead. It turns out by my observation carefully looking, that this 'plant strain' has fuck all to do with the 'LOWRYDER strain', from what i can see they just jumped on the band wagon for promotional purposes and used 'rider' basically to make cash. Limp... dick...Mother... Fuckers...

[blackxs]

Hmm, I hope I have better luck - I just ordered 10 Papaya seeds from Nirvana and their ultimate grow kit. I will be posting as that comes along. Should be starting that under 2 weeks

Personally I stay away from autoflowering plants because that is not natural genetic behaviour. I like being able to control my plants via lights a lot more. You mentioned you used 2700K, that was definitely a HUGE factor. Most logs I see that use autoflowering plants switch from 6500K range and then add in the 2500K or so lamp to flower them. Really I do not think its possible for a plant to just decide when to flower on it's own at the best time, as it will likely choose to flower at a point best sustained for its size and light, ignoring supplementary methods like LST or SCROG grows. I think at least while you are a beginner, with insfuccient funds as you mention, that you should consider sticking to normal seeds. I did not even bother with feminized seeds. I figure luck of the draw 50% are going to be female, and I would rather have strong seeds from directly crossed plants as opposed to a plant that was already grown from a crossed seed, then forced to hermie to get the other females producing seed. I like to keep my grow as basic and close to nature as possible, as I think the natural first gen seeds will be stronger than later hermie seeds which are essentially F2. Feminized seeds are not very natural, neither is autoflowering.

Good luck in your future endeavors, sadly I do not think this will be one for the history books.

[Purplera1n]

I'm trying to keep an optomistic mind about it. As i said, it's no skin off of my back. I have reached the decision, and because I'm a team player and i don't like to quit easily. I will continue this grow journel and keep updating with pictures and etc. consider it be looking at a panda you adopted from a zoo, you get sent special "happy birthday cards" with a retarded paw print that apparently came from the animal itself but really it's a stamp template.

I seem to recall a joke, "Little Yeshmashi from South Africa, Rides to fetch water everyday on his peddle bike from the town well 5 miles up the hills, 5 miles back to his home. He has one arm, one leg and one eye. For just 2 pounds a month, you can see the video, it's fucking hilarious!"

[SativaMonkey]

Hmm, I hope I have better luck - I just ordered 10 Papaya seeds from Nirvana and their ultimate grow kit. I will be posting as that comes along. Should be starting that under 2 weeks

Personally I stay away from autoflowering plants because that is not natural genetic behaviour. I like being able to control my plants via lights a lot more. You mentioned you used 2700K, that was definitely a HUGE factor. Most logs I see that use autoflowering plants switch from 6500K range and then add in the 2500K or so lamp to flower them. Really I do not think its possible for a plant to just decide when to flower on it's own at the best time, as it will likely choose to flower at a point best sustained for its size and light, ignoring supplementary methods like LST or SCROG grows. I think at least while you are a beginner, with insfuccient funds as you mention, that you should consider sticking to normal seeds. I did not even bother with feminized seeds. I figure luck of the draw 50% are going to be female, and I would rather have strong seeds from directly crossed plants as opposed to a plant that was already grown from a crossed seed, then forced to hermie to get the other females producing seed. I like to keep my grow as basic and close to nature as possible, as I think the natural first gen seeds will be stronger than later hermie seeds which are essentially F2. Feminized seeds are not very natural, neither is autoflowering.

Good luck in your future endeavors, sadly I do not think this will be one for the history books.

I dont agree with taking the control of the photoperiod away from the grower but autoflowering IS natural to some ruderalis strains which are naturally low THC the book ive got says that autoflower is a "ditch weed" trait it is natural just not natural to the indica, sativas or afganicas we all know & love but companies allways fuck about with gimmiky shit for more coin, i thought feminized was a bit of a joke to start with "more gimmiky shit" but after reading up on how its done the seed companies are crossing pollen from female hermies with fully female plants they seem to have done sommet right for once im sry to hear your having a few issues perplera1n & its not much help now but if id have wanted to grow a shorter strain id have gone with feminzed "Mazar" from dutch passion 19.5%THC, 100% pure indica.

I understand your anger purplera1n & hope your lil ens provide you with a good smoke but i would avoid autoflowering strains in future

[SativaMonkey]

Sommet to cheer ya up a bit

So three guys were in the jungle and were captured by a wild
tribe.
When they get to the camp, the chief says,"We will let u live,
if u can do a task. if u fail, we will kill u. The first thing u
need to do is get 10 of a kind of fruit. any fruit. then come c
us."

so the first guy comes back with 10 apples, and the chief
says,"now shove them all up ur ass without making a sound." so
the guy gets to the 3rd apple and he grunts. so they kill him,
and he floats up to heavon.

now the 2nd guy comes back with 10 grapes and the chief says the
same thing. so the guy gets in 9 grapes. Then he suddenly bursts
out laughing. so they kill him too and he goes up to heavon.

when he gets up there the first guy asked,"y'd u start laughing,
u almost made it." and the second guy says,"I would have. but i
laughed when i saw the other guy coming back with pineapples."

[Purplera1n]

ROLF, THATS THE BEST JOKE EVER.